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granpaw



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 4:08 pm    Post subject: looking for pattern Reply with quote

I'm trying to find a pattern for a men's shirt on the style of the one worn
in last of the mohicans, I do not know the correct name of it.
please help, that is if anyone is ever here.
SHeesh! rondeevoos are a wasteland on the internet...dead links everywhere.

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Wolf Whitewater



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 10:40 pm    Post subject: Re: looking for pattern Reply with quote

granpaw wrote:
> I'm trying to find a pattern for a men's shirt on the style of the one worn
> in last of the mohicans, I do not know the correct name of it.
> please help, that is if anyone is ever here.
> SHeesh! rondeevoos are a wasteland on the internet...dead links everywhere.


If you're spelling it 'rondeevoos' no wonder you're having trouble! Try
the correct spelling -- 'rendevouz' and see what you get. Also,
depending on where you are, it might be very hard to find anything
locally -- rendevouz are typically associated with the Fur Trade Era
(you might want to try searching for that in Google too) and the Fur
Traders worked basically west and north, in 'Indian territory', from
Illinois/Wisconsin/Michigan all the way to the Pacific Northwest, and
into Canada. So, geographically, you'll likely have better luck finding
the pattern you want if you search Google for Fur Trade re-enactment in
that general geographical area.

Another thought -- War of 1812 re-enactor websites might have costuming
links also, that could possibly have what you need. Try searching for
that, too.

I am not familiar with the Last of the Mohicans (wasn't it a book?) but
it should be pretty obvious which year -- give or take a decade -- the
style is. I seem to recall that it was a book, and then a movie. If it's
the movie, I'm guessing it's about Native Americans, probably pre Civil
War, and in that case, finding a men's shirt pattern will be pretty
easy. Men's shirts didn't change much from the mid 1700's through the
end of the Victorian era in the mid to late 1800s, at which point the
stiff collar and long tie became popular.

A typical men's shirt of the late American colonial (1790's) to Western
expansion period (1840's or so), covering the Fur Trade era, would have
been long sleeved, white or offwhite, linen or muslin (or possibly flax
or cotton), with simple cuffs and a yoked neck. There may have been one
or two buttons at the neck, and at the cuffs. The shirts were generally
longer, with tails to the mid-thigh.

If nothing else you could always look at the men's costumes in the
Simplicity or McCall's pattern books. A lot of them aren't very
historically accurate, but they're fairly easy to sew. Some of them are
more accurate than others. It's easiest just to go to your local fabric
store and look through the books.


Hope this helps!

Whitewater
Clann Tartan, Scottish 30 Years War Re-Enactors
www.clanntartan.org, member, 10+ years.
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granpaw



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 5:30 am    Post subject: Re: looking for pattern Reply with quote

Wolf Whitewater.
Thanks for all that info.
Yeah I know what you are talking about, I have been a "buskskinner" and
blacksmith since 1991, no particular time frame for me other than pre-1840.
as for using rondeevoo, I guess I dropped into using what we call camp
spellin.
Thanks again.
granpaw

http://www.hidden-prairie.com

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